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♪ mark: i am mark halperin. phil: and i am phil mattingly. it coming out of air force one today. that is nothing. on our lovingly assembled program tonight, israel now and then. a brand-new moment of zen. but first, indiana governor mike
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pence fresh off signing a so-called religious freedom act. governor says he is not going to change it even though gay-rights advocate i looking at the lgbt community being open for discrimination. they say it is not about exclusion. it is about inclusion. that is what was said by the speaker. >> will looking at his inclusion, inclusion of all religious beliefs, and instead what is come in is a message of eggs, and that is not what we wanted. to the extent that it is, we are intent on writing that. -- righting that. phil: mark, does governor branstad to call for changes? mark: he has got a very conservative membership. two: there are those in their teens and 20's, another pressure point.
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and i think they have to try to figure out a way to change this, without cashing in his principles but in a way that they can live with. phil: there are some that have this, but differently. what about backing off? more: # mark: this is a hard thing for him to do. he has basically gone into hiding. he is going to have to move, and he is gone to have to do the legislature to move, because they are more concerned now with the balance of so-called religious liberty and a rights. this is closer in dealing with the original intent. that is the reality.
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phil: if you had to wait us about being the individual policy and the time we are living in, what percentage would you give to each? mark: it is not just the timing. the legislature gave the gay-rights committee a sense a were doing this in order to try to rein in gay rights. that was their mistake. the intent people saw caused the problem, and i think he will have to make some changes, and i think he realizes that. and after the rhetoric, some democrats are telling the white house it is time to cool your jets against benjamin netanyahu. the times is saying that hillary clinton told a jewish group on sunday night that the u.s. israeli relationship should return to constructive footing so phil, should president obama back off of the tough rhetoric? phil: you first. that is when you hear when you talk to white house officials. benjamin netanyahu has a lot to do to kind of burned that badly
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white house willingness to reopen the dialogue to better the relationship. i think this is exactly why people dislike this white house because they are not willing to put out the all of branch right now. mark: he already apologized to arab leaders living in israel. what more does the white house want him to do? phil: maybe down on vintage knee. this is a relationship that i do not think is going to get better in a significant way until the next administration. at least from the u.s. side. one pressure point here is reforms. they are going to wait for that until any type of movement. mark: you think what hillary clinton said was logical? phil: i do not think it moves the ball forward one way or another. how did you with israel. there is also a recognition that hillary clinton has to a neck, and that will be their perspective going forward. mark: the real test comes when
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the united nations france, and the other country wants to do something, and i do not know really. what card benjamin netanyahu has to play. i cannot know that they are interested in taking calls. phil: the last two years congress five congressional democrats are going to have to run again, and they will need the support of israel. they need the support of people who are supportive of israel, so their request are very real and will have an impact. hillary clinton and scott walker. talking to the press right now. responding to the e-mails. but they have not given detailed answers to questions for hillary, about her personal
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e-mail use and for scott walker, about his position on immigration. and today walker took on a reporter's question about where he stands, and this is what he said without being super clear. mr. walker: a process in that regard. once all those things are done then congress should work together. those are some pretty big steps. forcing laws to be verified. that will take us a fair amount of time. phil: are scott walker and hillary clinton paying a perception of what is going underground? mark: i think walker, despite what he said today, has not been clear about what he's said about new hampshire and the path. it is not in irredeemable crisis. it is not like jeb bush is
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taking questions every day, but i think both of them are developing a reputation that when the going gets tough they would rather not answer and hope it blows over. i do not think that is a good thing for walker, in particular, and i think hillary clinton had that reputation already. phil: a poll show that her numbers are going up based upon this perception. but in all honesty, as a reporter, i would love to hear from her, but what does she have to say? what benefit does she have talking? we're expecting her to launch in a few weeks. mark: they wanted to blow over, and the walker people are doing the same. there are very skilled researchers out there. in the case of hillary clinton at the rnc, they are defining questions, and in the case of walker, there are a lot who are watching this closely. the meeting is not ready for prime time and answering
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questions about this public policy issue plays right into that. phil: how much is scott walker trying to cool it on that? mark: ok, a new host of the daily show, and everyone in every office in today was googling the heck out of him to see what he is like, including us. post: you flew in. guest: yes, i win and i was tired. post: ok. guest: no, seriously, i have been holding my arms like this since i got here. a comedian coming from africa. it is almost like leprechauns coming to run on page. let me tell you monkey jokes, yes? and this is about russia.
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what do they look more other than forming their own car accidents? post: land grabs? guest: chess. come on. we all remember that famous photo. mark: ok, phil. i have never heard of the guy before this. good choice. phil: what is wrong with americans? you have john oliver now doing this on hbo, and you have him taking over the daily show, and you have the new lake, lake guy. what is this? in truth, he is a funny dude. i have been a fan of his. supersmart. it's five or six different languages, is from south africa. what i've seen so far.
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mark: i look at some youtube clips today, and i was not blown away, although he did tell one of my favorite tips, i flew in, and my arms are tired. i am sure they did a ton of research, but i do not see the level of sophistication in his humor. if he hopes to inherit a lot of the audience of jon stewart, and what i have seen so far, good luck. phil: this is shooting after michael jordan shortstop for the yankees after derek jeter. can he make the show his own, or does he have to make it jon stewart like? mark: you are best off to inherit the audience, not build from scratch. i do not know if they're going to try to change the format. to me, they chose to go in a different direction, maybe he would be awesome, but i would be a little worried as i was running that show right now they can keep much of the audience.
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phil: there is a good piece on him on bloomberg politics right now, so go ahead and check that out. and before we tease our b block, patronage senator kennedy, including president obama, senator john mccain, and come up worse, what event would not be complete without a tech kennedy anecdote from vice president joe biden junior. mr. biden: trying to get me out of my office, get me engaged and i remember walking into the senate chamber, the senate jim life at the ymca, the men walk around between the shower and the dolls with nothing on, and i remember walking in and then saying, joe, i would like you to meet jack. how are you? i swear to god. i what you to meet --
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phil: it is such a high bar, and he never disappoints. mark: i enjoyed that story and all of joe biden's speech. mccain's speech, if you have not yet, i recommend you go to see it. it is on john mccain's website. up in boston, it is quite something. all right, coming up, you're betting on whether there will be a deal with iran we have the art with two experts. and later playing a game about seven works. all of that and much, much, much more, after this.
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mark: our two guest tonight,
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joining us from the nuclear talks in switzerland, and our point person, david sanger, with the new york times, and both join us now from luzon. what is the headline to what has happened in the last 24 hours at the talks? guest: deal or no deal. that is the headline. that is the major question or only estimate anyone cares about at this point, and it has been a lot of comings and goings, and we had the russian minister coming in, and he took off, wait for it, to meet with the prime minister of the island nation, and he says they are not coming back unless they are ready to make a deal. and a chance for some kind of agreement, and secretary kerry said they're going to be working into the night to try to bridge the gaps that still exist between the two sides, so i think everyone is trying to read tea leaves, comings and goings
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and it is hard to analyze and parse them, but i think at this point even ellis themselves do not know if we're going to get a deal by tomorrow night deadline. phil: david, a partial deal or no deal? and what we have always is going to be a willingness to allow a third party to hold their enriched uranium. u.s. officials have pushed back a little on that. can you explain what the state of play is on that? david: what has happened here is as early as last year, an idea began to flow that would make sense for iran to a lot of its fuel, and it has tens of thousands of pounds of nuclear fuels, most of it to russia, and what the russians, who built their big commercial nuclear reactor said, they can turn it
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into fuel that they could burn for the reactor. i ran, it would be a very simple solution for them because people would not be worried they can use it were a on, and the iranians can they, look we made this, and we are using it with russian help to have power and electricity for our people, and it has been widely assumed since november or thereabouts that that was pretty well be understanding, even though it was not written or signed anywhere, and then last night we had the deputy foreign minister of iran stepped out of the hotel you see behind us and say, you know, we are never returning this. he said that before, and we always thought it was a negotiating position but to say it 36 hours before a partial deal is supposed to be reached seemed to take it off the table, and we made that point in the times today, and the state department pushed back pretty
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hard, saying, no, no, there has never been any other heading they would give this away, and it is ok. they can keep it in iran and they can do it down into a form to make it difficult or in some cases impossible to use for palm fuel. but we all know that i have got a deal. it does not look like they have a deal to do that blending job. mark: indira? indira: guys, ultimately -- i was just going to say that ultimately the idea of down blending enriched uranium enriched uranium 23.5% and then download it again does not make any sense, so the whole solution they are talking about is one that has a lot of people scratching their heads, and as david pointed out, it is not the only gap that remains. there is a whole argument about sanctions, when they will be lifted, and an argument about research and development, what happens after this deal, and at the german foreign minister said, iran would not only be
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able to break up and explode with more development of its nuclear program in year 11 so these still remain. mark: david, we have talked a lot about what the u.s. reaction would be without a deal. how when the iranians at it and and there is no deal? david: well, first of all, it could and tomorrow and it would not necessarily be the end of getting a deal. this is something of an artificial deadline tomorrow. it was set by the u.s. and its negotiating partners to see if they can make enough progress in the last three months, but the temporary agreement that they have with iran that limits iran's limits while this is negotiated runs till the end of june, so you can imagine the scenario of tomorrow and it can still pick up the following week or the following month, and that is very possible scenario. to your question though, i think
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the iranian people would be very disappointed, because they elected president rouhani something of a surprise two years ago, because he ran on a platform that he would get rid of these sections and they have cut iran's oil revenues by 60% and it has sent their currency the real, plunging, making it impossible to do international banking if you are in ordinary iranian, and it has made it difficult to travel and so a lot of ordinary iranians, they do not want to be humiliated. they do not want to give up all of your nuclear program, but, frankly they would just like this program to go away where they can get back to a normal business life and go to the united states or europe to study. mark: all right indira and d avid, thank you, and we will look at the deadline or as david suggested, maybe no deadline at all. thanks so much. coming up, what do grumpy
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sneezy, and others have in common? ben cardin reveals all, next.
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mark: they say that serving in the united states senate is like a fairytale, and maybe not. snow white. first in his class at the university law school now serving as a junior senator from maryland, you were first in your class? senator cardin: -- mark: you know the senators well. what better way to get to know them then to associate them with snow white and the seven dwarfs. your senate colleagues. which one would you associate with doc? senator cardin: al franken. he is so serious.
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you can never get him to do something that is funny. mark: all right, al franken as doc. happy. senator cardin: that is easy. john mccain. a nice life. he gets along with everybody. he never loses his temper. phil: what about senator mikulski? mark: all right, bashful. you could have done senator mccain for bashful. senator cardin: chuck schumer. mark: dopey is next on my list and that is dod. lifting going. sleepy. senator cardin: mitch mcconnell. mark: why? senator cardin: because i cannot figure out anyone. mark: all right, your thoughts
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on grumpy. senator cardin: i cannot choose john mccain for below. grumpy, ted cruz. people think he is grumpy, yes. it is hard to sort of warm up to him. mark: ok, last one. this is a tough when it will require some creativity. sneezy. senator cardin: lindsey graham is one of the nicest guys in the senate, so i might as well call him sneezy. it is easy for all of us to get along with. mark: this is what we call in major league baseball in underhand softball. a bear, who would you pick as snow white? senator cardin: senator mikulski. everybody sort of looks to her as the person that blazes the trail, that has done everything
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and i am being serious. she has really been the role model for everyone to allah, so when there is a tough issue people look to barbara mikulski. phil: what do people not understand about her? senator cardin: she knows about these issues and is a street fighter, and what they do not know is l-series he she takes these issues. i have had intimate conversations with her about national issues and wildly absurd about issues that may not be popular. she is deeply concerned. mark: first time playing senators and snow white's posse, you did well. and we did not give you dopey. senator cardin: i would have taken that. i would have taken the hit or the whole team. mark: senator, thank you. you are nice to play, and we
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will be back with more fine after this. ♪
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phil: john kasich is back to south carolina and new hampshire next month. as always, check out bloomberg politics online. >> sayonara.
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